cities all over the country having to scale back if they can't find the budget deficit. that's what you don't want to do this, local employment during an economic downturn. >> even the fiscal cliff to be right about now. >> this is a huge thing. justice program provides grants to law enforcement to hire more police. that program could easily be 20 or 30 times its billion dollars figure size. it would be one of the most productive things the federal government could do to make progress in this area. >> we agree 18 what the professor outlined in the latter part of what he said is to go after illegal gun market among law-abiding people. we're talking about felons on gun violence from the people engaged gun sales illegal under any interpretation of the law. and go after people with records carrying guns illegally. that's been done in cooperation with u.s. attorney in chicago. it's been reasonably good. they think the important thing is to find ways to go after criminals here. what i'm afraid we're going to do things the assault weapons magazine is to do things that have an e